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Postby arutha » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:57 pm

hmmm was hoping to hold out until my car is elligable for ROTM before i became a premium member but with a deal like this i just can't say no
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Postby scraverX » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:43 pm

The chart linked by Sam suggests to me that even the Handling grade are significantly stiffer over the OEM ES/RX/VR fitment. Both front & rear sit above the suggested 'optimum' green zone.
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Postby tryg » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:51 am

Scraver, what does that mean.. Green Zone?

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Postby scraverX » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:15 am

If you look at the chart, it has Start size (or OEM) on one axis and New (larger) size on the other axis.

In the listed percentages (where OEM and After size meet) they have provided a "sweet spot" or optimum zone for street use. The numbers in this zone are coloured Green.

Rear on the ES/RX/VR is 18mm. Trace across from there on the vertical axis and you'll see two percentage numbers in green these meet up with 20mm and 21mm on the horizontal (if memory serves).

22mm (The Handling rear bar) on the horizontal is just above this "green zone"
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Postby SAM-24A » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:46 am

Well done ScraverX trying to explain to Tryg !!!

Slight correction if I may, There are 3 green optimum figures.
For Rear Bars:
18mm OEM Bar (ES/VR/RX) - suggested upgrade = 19 - 20 - 21
20mm OEM Bar (VRX/ASPIRE/RA) - suggested upgrade = 21 - 22 - 23

Keep in mind these suggested upgrades (green figures) are suitable for street performance vehicle, as the graph states.

Therefore: If you wanted to equate/improve on the OEM VRX/ASPIRE/RA Sway Bars, you could comfortable choose the 22mm Rear Bar for NA Lancer: BMR86Z.
However you would be wise to also choose the 24mm Front Bar for NA Lancer: BMF56Z to keep your front and rear properly balanced and tunable.

Remember these Whitline Bars are adjustable/tunable (Front = 2 hole & Rear = 3 hole)
Remember Also: A 22mm Bar with 3 holes allows for up-to 24mm fitment.
-- First/Furthest Hole = 22mm
----Second/Middle Hole = 23mm
------Third/Closest Hole = 24mm
--------(approx equivalents)
Same principal applies to all other Adjustable Bars.

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Postby tadz0rz » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:19 am

Is there any downside if we go for the 26mm front bar and 24mm rear bar if we only have a ES/RX/VR?

Thanks =)
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Postby SAM-24A » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:42 am

Hi Tadz. "Yes and No"
It depends on how hard or how not you drive around corners on suburban roads.

Whiteline as you know is offering two Groups: Handling for Raod and Sport for Performance Road/ Moreso Track.

Adrian Provided an Excellent Read on Anti-Roll Bars: link = http://www.turnfast.com/tech_handling/handling_antiroll
Read the first paragraph of Summary at the bottom of the Page.

Here It Is:
Summary
The anti-roll bar reduces body roll to keep the suspension geometry, and ultimately the tire, parallel with the road. Stiffer bars reduce body roll more, but too stiff a bar can deteriorate independent suspension performance, and ultimately cause an inside tire to lift off the ground during hard cornering.

So if you prefer to drive around corners on 2 or 3 wheels in Suburbia, then go for the Bigger Bars. LOL LOL
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Postby tadz0rz » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:45 am

Thanks for that Sam, Im not really for hammering through corners n all that sort of stuff...Esp when i have my mother in the car lol. Pending finances, ill most likely go for the 26mm and 24mm sway bars. Just to be sure i got the right stuff if i ever do take it to the track :twisted:
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Postby SAM-24A » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:57 am

Perhaps a Full Race Harness, Nitrous (laughing gas) and some Totally Blacked-Out Sunnies will ease your Mum's tensions when she travel's with you. LOL

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Postby tadz0rz » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:00 am

Hahhaa True that Sam.

Thanks for your help man
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Postby SAM-24A » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:06 am

Quick Tadz -- Minimise your page before your Mum see's your next mods.

And if you do decide to do the Harness - Nitrous - Sunnies mods, Can you do a "How to Freak the Daylights Out of Your Mum" Video the TadzTube way you do best !!! LOLOLOLO

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Postby tadz0rz » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:08 am

hahahah its the only way!!

My mum doesnt like it when i modify the car, but whenever she drives it shes like, your car makes me look cool and i have a different attitude when driving it! Maybe thats why she scrapes the wheels and backs into walls..
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Postby SAM-24A » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:17 am

Tadz, you wrote: whenever she drives it shes like, your car makes me look cool.

I think you already have a Nitrous leak somewhere. Better check it out before she likes to much.

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Postby tryg » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:50 am

the adjustability aside, I thought the 22mm, 24mm and 26mm was the diameter of the bar size?!

I guess I am willing to put up with harder suspension, even in suburbia to future-proof my car for the way I drive!

In any case, it is easily pulled out and sold if not happy.


I had a TRX Bluebird back in '88 and it had a full suspension rebuild, massive sway bars on rear... helped reel in the tramping from the monster twin twin SUs on the FJ20 twin cam motor..

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Postby SIR-VRX » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:53 am

Yes tryg, it is the bar size.

But being an adjustable sway bar, you can "dial in" to suit your requirements. The three holes allow some movement which imitate a different size bar.


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