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Postby Dire » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:47 pm

I am still assuming the accident wasn't your fault but...
Is mitsu really liable for anything if the car is out of warranty and has been tracked?

If there was an electronic failure, electronics can wear out just like mechanical parts... They can't be guaranteed forever surely?

And if there was some catastrophic mechanical failure, like the diff jamming, can the computer be expected to know what to do?

You say it braked AND accelerated? It sounds to me like AYC tried damn hard to keep the car straight, and didn't necessarily malfunction. But the AYC is designed for AWD... I doubt it has any sub-function or contingency for having unresponsive wheels...

If it was just a tyre blow-out and AYC freaked out then that'd be a different story, AYC shouldn't nearly kill you over something that normal.

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Postby himynameisdaniel » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:33 pm

I don't think mitsubishi cover any warranty if the car was tracked.

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Postby Beeble » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:55 pm

I had a wheel speed sensor malfunction on the track and was violently thrown off the track on a corner. then I went back twice not knowing what was wrong... same thing happened twice more.

so if a sensor can do that - maybe a blowout where the wheel spins slower all of a sudden might do the same thing.
but a loud bang - could be rear diff let go or jammed somehow?



and yepo I've seen the photos. ouch. it ain't pretty :(
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Postby Dire » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:01 pm

Yeah sounds much more concerning now...

So did the AYC try and make the back wheels such different speeds that it was beyond the ability of the diff? Thats pretty damn scary.

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Postby BST50N » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:32 pm

Wow scary stuff. Hope it goes well for you in court. Kind of glad the RA doesn't have AYC now!
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Postby BZC-45S » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:48 pm

A part of the issue is that all sorts of different electrical/computer circuits are coming together, integrated for (normally) a safe driving experience. If one component in those sub-systems were to malfunction or experience some fault, it can have drastic, and in this case, disasterous consequences.

The brake assist system applies full braking power when it interprets a panic/emergency situation. The ABS system merely ensures wheel rotations are approximately equivalent so no sudden changes in rotational speeds. Perhaps a sudden change in rotation speed as reported by a wheel sensor attached to the wheel experiencing the puncture/blow out caused the system to experience conditions outside of its programming... I can only guess what they car intended to do to right the situation.

Good luck with the legal battle(s). And wishing you a speedy recovery. Has this experience put you off Evo X or Mitsubishis in general?

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Postby ofey » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:21 am

I've just gone through this epic thread and I'm glad you're ok.

Just keep us updated about what happens in court.
Would be great if there are accessible transcripts of the court proceedings which you can request for in PDF so it's not reported by just you... .
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Postby jordan.fuchs » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:04 am

That really sucks to hear man, I hope everything goes well with your court battles and most importantly, your recovery.

Yes, please keep us updated.

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Postby SIX » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:38 am

im interested to see the results of the finding of this ... this could have massive implications if what u are is true ? , on the manufacture, and the police ? ... not doubting your version of event at all ... if it were the falut of the car them u may have a claim on mitsuibishi, one for the recovery of the car and two for your health and well being .... this is going to be interesting i shall be following
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Postby SIX » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:49 am

as i said its going to be very interesting its going to be long a drawn out they lawyers are going to love it
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Postby parralegend » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:07 pm

Mind = Blown. I cannot believe what I just read and thank god you and your mates are alright.

How the F could they give you a neg driving ticket if your going the speed limit I mean don't they send out the forensic team to check the accident scene and determine where the traction was lost... I mean they can prove the speed just by looking at the tyre marks... Friken incredible and if you were pushing the brake why the hell didn't asc kick in I thought that overwrote everything (albeit till stuff snapped).

Good luck man, hope you get a result and a 100% conclusive review happens so every other evo owner knows how to avoid it in the future. Thank god I don't have AYC.

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Postby shadow-vex » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:17 pm

parralegend wrote:Mind = Blown. I cannot believe what I just read and thank god you and your mates are alright. How the F could they give you a neg driving ticket if your going the speed limit I mean dont they send out the forensic team to check the accident scene and determine where the traction was lost... I mean they can prove the speed just by looking at the tyre marks...


if there is an accident u get neg driving, I got done for neg driving coz I dropped my bike
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Postby parralegend » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:39 pm

shadow-vex wrote:[quote:0d0f729792=parralegend]Mind = Blown. I cannot believe what I just read and thank god you and your mates are alright. How the F could they give you a neg driving ticket if your going the speed limit I mean dont they send out the forensic team to check the accident scene and determine where the traction was lost... I mean they can prove the speed just by looking at the tyre marks...[/quote:0d0f729792] if there is an accident u get neg driving, I got done for neg driving coz I dropped my bike


I must not be familiar with the laws then. I thought negligent driving was when your doing something that could cause harm to yourself and others and an accident was just... well a accident. I've been rear ended twice does that count as neg driving regardless? Not being a smart a** I truly want to know :)


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