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Relay comes with horn not harness kit.
My right/left references are relative to your position when you are standing in front of car facing the engine, as when you are working on the front of the car.
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VRX_Pete wrote:JaCe, so what's your thoughts, well worth the trouble?
Since you got the TM80/2 - that's going to be a 500 & 410 harmonized tone plus the left over lancer's other horn (which is may be the 500) - hence the too high pitch noise. Try putting the removed one back in to even things out and have the original dual harmonized tone.
Me, really considering the 300Hz truck one for a triple harmonized tone of 300/410/500 and a bit of oompf.
1. The leftover horn was disconnected so it's just the aftermarket ones in operation.
2. It's a bit high pitched/sharp- definitely a lot better than the stock ones but nowhere near as good as my previous Stebel horns which I've installed in my Civic and a few other cars. In other words, it doesn't have the same OOMPH and "GET OUTTA MY WAY" which the old Stebel ones in the sub $25 category had, but still good enough IMO.
3. The new red horn however does look nice through my grille
ps. If anyone with a stock CJ horn wants to do a video comparison for the forums I'm happy to participate
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Hmmm now to find a decently priced 300Hz Nautilus truck horn. Cheapest I can find on fleabay is around $89 from a place in Qld.
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OK, I have had a few weeks of real-world experience with the 300Hz Stebel horn added to my two OEM electric horns, and can now provide some meaningful feedback:
1. Yes, short beeps are still relatively friendly, with the 300Hz air horn not having time to get fully up to speed, which is a nice feature to maintain.
2. Sustained blasts (of a second or more) are much more effective with the additional 300Hz horn at discouraging intrusions into my immediate path (i.e. warning to avoid a possible collisions). Not only is the total horn volume louder, but the lower tone is automatically associated with larger vehicles, and when heard by other drivers their initial reaction is to take the warning noticeably more seriously.
I have waited a few weeks because I don't actually use the horn unless I need to - really! However, when I do need to the horn in earnest, I need an earnest horn, and the 300Hz horn fits the bill. I am very happy with the result, especially given the relatively low cost and the modest amount of work involved.
As noted on other forums, working out exactly what I was going to do took much longer than actually do it.
1. Yes, short beeps are still relatively friendly, with the 300Hz air horn not having time to get fully up to speed, which is a nice feature to maintain.
2. Sustained blasts (of a second or more) are much more effective with the additional 300Hz horn at discouraging intrusions into my immediate path (i.e. warning to avoid a possible collisions). Not only is the total horn volume louder, but the lower tone is automatically associated with larger vehicles, and when heard by other drivers their initial reaction is to take the warning noticeably more seriously.
I have waited a few weeks because I don't actually use the horn unless I need to - really! However, when I do need to the horn in earnest, I need an earnest horn, and the 300Hz horn fits the bill. I am very happy with the result, especially given the relatively low cost and the modest amount of work involved.
As noted on other forums, working out exactly what I was going to do took much longer than actually do it.
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Help.
OK, so I finally got my Stebel Horn, so ready to hopefully to do tmrw. i'm a bit of a noob when it comes to car electrics, so I've had a look at the "instructions" on the back of the box and the Mitsubishi wiring diagrams and the "instructions" have confused me. I hope i am right that our cars are "with ground lead to horn button" - highlight in RED.
However, I have trouble understanding the bit circled in yellow. What's with the scissors? The horn is the switch, so I dont understand how the OEM horn GND is connected to the horn switch GND (other than common ground) and how or if I should sever that at all....
I've got the proposed wiring, have I missed something? (The doco and original wiring diag is below this pic)
OK, so I finally got my Stebel Horn, so ready to hopefully to do tmrw. i'm a bit of a noob when it comes to car electrics, so I've had a look at the "instructions" on the back of the box and the Mitsubishi wiring diagrams and the "instructions" have confused me. I hope i am right that our cars are "with ground lead to horn button" - highlight in RED.
However, I have trouble understanding the bit circled in yellow. What's with the scissors? The horn is the switch, so I dont understand how the OEM horn GND is connected to the horn switch GND (other than common ground) and how or if I should sever that at all....
I've got the proposed wiring, have I missed something? (The doco and original wiring diag is below this pic)
"the quieter you become, the more you are able to hear"
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I installed mine on Friday. Have the Stebel and 2 OEM horns. bloody loud, not too truck-ish.
The combined tone of 300, 410 & 500Hz plus the extra volume definately gives it a nice imposing purpose to the sound. Which is what I want.
Will post up pics and sound/video later on tonight or tmrw. I need to make "after" recording of the new tone....
The combined tone of 300, 410 & 500Hz plus the extra volume definately gives it a nice imposing purpose to the sound. Which is what I want.
Will post up pics and sound/video later on tonight or tmrw. I need to make "after" recording of the new tone....
"the quieter you become, the more you are able to hear"
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Here is the sound of the OEM Mitsubish 410Hz and 500Hz horns:OEM_Horns_410500.wav - 0.54MB
Here is the sound of the Stebel 300Hz air horn in additon to the OEM horns:Stebel300_1.wav - 0.59MB
Here is the sound of the Stebel 300Hz air horn in additon to the OEM horns:Stebel300_1.wav - 0.59MB
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Ah, welcome to the world of real horns!
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realise this thread is long dead, but this was a really informative thread, and i'm definitely looking at the 300hz truck horn in the next few weeks. if i have pretty much zero knowledge of wiring, is it worth trying to do myself? or is it easier to get someone else to do it for me so I don't go breaking things..
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