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Postby LZY_EYE » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:12 pm

I have the same dillema Adrian!!

I would probably move my plate down the bottom like Ozie has if I were to black out the bumper

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Postby SIR-VRX » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:13 pm

I contemplated moving the plate to directly under the centre bit, but still in the centre horizontally. Putting it offset and down the bottom looks pus IMO 9no offence kiddies)
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Postby tadz0rz » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:14 pm

SO THE TRUTH FINALLY COMES OUT! What about the side mount? Not a fan of that either?
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Postby SIR-VRX » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:15 pm

not a fan or drilling into the bumper. And it's also illegal there. Oh whoops, did I say a mod was illegal again?

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Postby tadz0rz » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:23 pm

Lol you did. i 'heard' not saying its true, but apparently if its mounted on the left hand side it doesnt matter. Some of the new alfa's and audi's have it on the side dont they?

Unless, you know the law? I Got told that it needs to be seen at like a 70 degree angle or something?
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Postby SIR-VRX » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:29 pm

I had this discussion with another member last night over PM.

I linked that other member with the relevant ADRs as well, like I always do.

The number plate MUST be parallel with the front axle. ie aligned straight, not on an angle.

Here is the info, copied the PM across.

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Now with regards to the evo mount, a few issues fall under it. 1 is the view angle. ADR 61 states in Clause 9.1.1.2

provision must be made for mounting a registration plate (as shown in Figure 1) to be affixed to the front of the motor vehicle forward of and parallel to the front ‘Axle’ so that no part of such registration plate is more than 1,300 mm from the ground.


That means the plate must be square on, not on an angle.

right, so make a mount with the plate square on to the vehicle? No can do. Because of the curve of the front side of the vehicle, we run into another problem. ADR 42, section 11 lists requirements relating to external protrusions. There are no specific dimensions, but it my guess is if you were to make a mount like the evo mount, but made it at such an angle, it would technically be illegal.
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Postby tadz0rz » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:33 pm

Yeah i understand you 90%, other 10% i sorta understand.

Man, we hijacked this thread big timeeeee.

Im shutting up now.
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Postby Dusk20 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:37 pm

hijack away, it's good to hear what you guys have to say.

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Postby tadz0rz » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:39 pm

Lol since we have permission from the author, the other 10% is...

How would you actually know how much something can pertrude from the car if it doesnt state it...All the side mounts, arnt flat...but their not to the same sorta angle that the car sorta...bends/angles to...
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Postby SIR-VRX » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:49 pm

When a custom mount is installed so they are flat facing forward, the protrusion out from the bumper bar is quite a bit due to the curve or the bumper.

There is no specific dimensions, BUT they do say it can't risk any injury etc to persons. So a mount protruding out past the bumper 100mm to 150mm (and it does, go look) would be classed as dangerous to persons.

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Postby Dummer » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:53 pm

tadz0rz wrote:Yeah i understand you 90%, other 10% i sorta understand.

Man, we hijacked this thread big timeeeee.

Im shutting up now.


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Postby tadz0rz » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:08 pm

Ah i get what your saying adrian. Cant believe such a small pertrusion can make such a great big deal(maybe on a CJ it aint the smallest pertrusion). I mean, could it really affect someone that bad? Gotta be real unlucky to be hit by a car and they guy got serious injury's sustained from a licence plate mount. Makes you think huh...
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Postby Dummer » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:11 pm

You have to draw a line somewhere, they cant go adding a million exclusions. Besides it's in your best interests in case you ever get hit by a car whilst drunk or whatever :P

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Postby tadz0rz » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:16 pm

Adding millions everywhere would just look stupid in the first place.
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Postby SIR-VRX » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:24 pm

Ok kids. I used an old numberplate frame for size purposes and took some photos and measurements. NOTE the huge distance!! Oh and excuse the dirty car. Going to get a wash tomorrow.

1st pic shows where the plate is mounted from the front view.

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2nd pic shows the measurement from the plate to the bumper. It says 220mm to the front of the plate from the bumper.

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