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Flat Spot in EVO X ???

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Flat Spot in EVO X ???

Postby MrMuppet » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:11 pm

hey guy's and gals
quick q about the MR

sister in law's mr has a dead spot when you put the foot down on the accelerator, to the point where they wait for a bigger gap in traffic then i need to in the vr from a corner!?!?!


any help would be great, hopefully will have the MR at the Jan 3 meet in Mt Gravatt also

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Re: Flat Spot in EVO X ???

Postby JaCe » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:18 pm

Kimerik wrote:hey guy's and gals
quick q about the MR

sister in law's mr has a dead spot when you put the foot down on the accelerator, to the point where they wait for a bigger gap in traffic then i need to in the vr from a corner!?!?!


any help would be great, hopefully will have the MR at the Jan 3 meet in Mt Gravatt also


It's the throttle lag and delay in the transmission's NORMAL mode- annoys the heck out of me. If you have the car in SPORT or S-SPORT mode then this isn't an issue. I installed a 3Drive (throttle controller) to overcome this actually because I don't like using Sport/Super Sport mode too often unnecessarily.

On another note though, you do learn to adjust and live with it. It isn't too bad.
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Postby MrMuppet » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:21 pm

thanx Jace will pass the msg on to them, would bother me alot, as i like to feel it when needed (slight lead foot, the VR goes well :) ) but, like you say could get used to it
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Postby JaCe » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:32 pm

I don't think it's ever been a real issue for me once I got used to the car. I mean it will still go forward but there is a bit of throttle lag and then there is also turbo lag. That's why some people prefer to use the more sensitive transmission settings in traffic. Ask your pal to test drive one and see for themselves.
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Postby WASABI » Thu May 13, 2010 11:18 am

What you describing is very typical when automatic turbo cars... Doesn't matter if you have a Mitsubishi, Porsche, VW etc etc etc, they all act in the same fashion.

My father & I always used to count to 3 before anything really started to happen in all the turbo auto cars we've owed.

The different mods (As Jeff as suggested) do get past this, but a throttle controller or even a tune will be the most effective way to limit that "lag".

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Postby JaCe » Thu May 13, 2010 1:09 pm

S Sport also helps a bit :)
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Postby billy boy » Thu May 13, 2010 2:19 pm

WASABI wrote:What you describing is very typical when automatic turbo cars... Doesn't matter if you have a Mitsubishi, Porsche, VW etc etc etc, they all act in the same fashion.

My father & I always used to count to 3 before anything really started to happen in all the turbo auto cars we've owed.

The different mods (As Jeff as suggested) do get past this, but a throttle controller or even a tune will be the most effective way to limit that "lag".

not all ;) my jzx100 was brilliant off the line (well, unless you left tc on and then you might as well go to sleep) but it did help have max torque at 2800

on my RA it is pretty annoying, i've had my tuned which has minimised the amount of throttle lag, but it could be better...
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Postby LZY_EYE » Thu May 13, 2010 2:33 pm

I am not an expert, but I believe that it is to do with the electronic throttle.

I have been in an evoX with a throttle controller and the difference is amazing :)

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Postby WASABI » Thu May 13, 2010 5:34 pm

LZY_EYE wrote:I am not an expert, but I believe that it is to do with the electronic throttle.

I have been in an evoX with a throttle controller and the difference is amazing :)


The fly-by wire throttle doesn't help things at all.

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Postby Aspired » Thu May 13, 2010 7:19 pm

Its not really throttle lag, Isn't it just Turbo lag you guys are talking about ?

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Postby SIR-VRX » Thu May 13, 2010 7:31 pm

By the sounds of it it's actually the SST lag.

Say you are rolling along, SST in 3rd gear. The SST would have 4th pre-selected ready to go. You plant your foot, SST goes "oh sh!t I need to down change!!", it makes the change in the other gear set, then swaps the clutches thus engaging the gear. That whole process can take half a second to a second depending on circumstances.

A similar thing happens in a regular automatic transmission, only it's faster to do it as it's just engaging and disengaging hydraulic valves,

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Postby WASABI » Fri May 14, 2010 9:57 am

Aspired wrote:Its not really throttle lag, Isn't it just Turbo lag you guys are talking about ?


You could say it's a little of both... Having that little bit of turbo lag probably exacerbate the situation (As I have mentioned, I've experienced this in all turbo cars I have owned / driven) however, the fly by wire throttle does not help.

In fact, all the auto cars (Both Japanese & Euro) I have driven with fly by wire seem to suffer from the same problem.

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Postby JaCe » Fri May 14, 2010 11:18 am

The throttle controller and S Sport do eliminate a lot of the problem from what I can tell.
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Postby Frazza » Fri May 14, 2010 3:10 pm

I don't think you are putting your foot down enough, i don't have this problem :)
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Postby shamrockshirts » Fri May 14, 2010 4:04 pm

WASABI wrote:What you describing is very typical when automatic turbo cars...


Remember the SST isn't an automatic...


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