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3M Di-Noc Carbon Roof + Parts (More Photos)
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3M Di-Noc Carbon Roof + Parts (More Photos)
So I spent all morning doing my carbon vinyl roof. Certainly not a job I ever want to do again, but pretty happy with the results. Also redid my interior, after originally doing it in Neffywrap. 3M Di-Noc is awesome stuff to work with though, and after using both, I'd definitely recommend it over Neffywrap if you can afford it. More details later ... I'm running late:
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Last edited by draevon on Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Alex.K wrote:WOW. Great work mate. You must be a perfectionist.
even the steering wheel control panels. I wanna do that too
when you get back, please tell me how neffy wrap and di noc are different.
And how much they cost thanks
neffywrap cloth material no sticky side Requires glue. cheaper.
Dinoc Carbon Vinyl a vinyl sticky side made my 3M Expensive.
1Sq Yard of NeffyWrap about $50
1Sq Yard of 3M Di Noc, >$100
IF YOUR NOT LIVING ON THE EDGE YOUR TAKING UP TOO MUCH ROOM
Thanks guys ... I'll answer a few questions:
The CJ roof is pretty much smack on 4x5 feet. Di-Noc rolls are manufactured 122cm (just over 4 feet) wide. You need a little more length to allow for some overhang. I used 160cm length for the roof and wouldn't want to use much less. I used the remaining 80cm I bought to do the interior. I wanted to do the rear armrests as well but didn't have enough vinyl left over so will buy a little more later on.
As far as the difference between Di-Noc and Neffy ... As Blake said, Neffy is a fabric and needs to be used with contact adhesive. Neffy wrap is pretty stretchy, but must be held in place while the glue dries which can be annoying and time consuming. Di-Noc is self adhesive. It's stiffer to start with, but when it's heated if goes ultra soft and can be stretched to a huge extent. Heating also makes it ultra sticky, and basically if you can stretch it and get it to stick initially, within about 4 seconds it'll be set there. It cools even stiffer then it starts and really locks in place (it can be heated and goes soft over and over again). Di-Noc feels a lot more durable, both in it's ability to stick more permanently, and it just seems like a more solid product.
I wouldn't try to Neffywrap the steering switches, because I don't think it would stick nearly as well, it's thicker so would interfere with the bottons, and also because i think it would wear poorly with me constantly rubbing my thumbs on it.
Cost-wise Di-Noc is definately more expensive, but I did my roof and majority of my interior for $230 ... that's still pretty affordable for a high quality product.
With regard to doing the roof, it took about 4 hours start to finish. I only used heat for the last 1/3 of the roof, and if I was doing it again, I'd probably avoid using heat, because by making it more stretchy, I can now see tiny waves in the carbon pattern. Not huge but enough for me to notice. The edges were a bit trial and error. I decided not to take the weather strips off after breaking the first clip I tried, but I think it looks fine the way it's done. Seems to be on nice and solid and looks pretty permanent.
Will take some more pics of the roof and the edges tomorrow ... let me know if I've missed any questions.
The CJ roof is pretty much smack on 4x5 feet. Di-Noc rolls are manufactured 122cm (just over 4 feet) wide. You need a little more length to allow for some overhang. I used 160cm length for the roof and wouldn't want to use much less. I used the remaining 80cm I bought to do the interior. I wanted to do the rear armrests as well but didn't have enough vinyl left over so will buy a little more later on.
As far as the difference between Di-Noc and Neffy ... As Blake said, Neffy is a fabric and needs to be used with contact adhesive. Neffy wrap is pretty stretchy, but must be held in place while the glue dries which can be annoying and time consuming. Di-Noc is self adhesive. It's stiffer to start with, but when it's heated if goes ultra soft and can be stretched to a huge extent. Heating also makes it ultra sticky, and basically if you can stretch it and get it to stick initially, within about 4 seconds it'll be set there. It cools even stiffer then it starts and really locks in place (it can be heated and goes soft over and over again). Di-Noc feels a lot more durable, both in it's ability to stick more permanently, and it just seems like a more solid product.
I wouldn't try to Neffywrap the steering switches, because I don't think it would stick nearly as well, it's thicker so would interfere with the bottons, and also because i think it would wear poorly with me constantly rubbing my thumbs on it.
Cost-wise Di-Noc is definately more expensive, but I did my roof and majority of my interior for $230 ... that's still pretty affordable for a high quality product.
With regard to doing the roof, it took about 4 hours start to finish. I only used heat for the last 1/3 of the roof, and if I was doing it again, I'd probably avoid using heat, because by making it more stretchy, I can now see tiny waves in the carbon pattern. Not huge but enough for me to notice. The edges were a bit trial and error. I decided not to take the weather strips off after breaking the first clip I tried, but I think it looks fine the way it's done. Seems to be on nice and solid and looks pretty permanent.
Will take some more pics of the roof and the edges tomorrow ... let me know if I've missed any questions.
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