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Improper Use of Outlander Chassis
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:22 am
by squala
It would be a dark bluish grey, pre-facelifted model standing by in Blackburn Road just past the BP station corner Highbury Road. It was preying on unassuming motorists. Yes, it's Melbourne's very own mobile speed camera. I knew it the moment cars traveling on the other direction started flashing their lights to help save hundred of bucks and a handful of demerit points. I was actually expecting a Territory or Commodore Sportwagon operating the camera. Too bad it was one of ours, who gave up Mitsubishi pride in favour of a day's work.
Plate was WRR634. It's improper because motorists have the right to know a speed camera is on operation in the area. Of course these pricks would violate the guidelines to meet quota.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:34 am
by kinesis
since when have motorists been made aware of speed cameras in Melbourne? only the fixed speed cameras have been made public.
Re: Improper Use of Outlander Chassis
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:46 am
by Blakey
squala wrote:It would be a dark bluish grey, pre-facelifted model standing by in Blackburn Road just past the BP station corner Highbury Road. It was preying on unassuming motorists. Yes, it's Melbourne's very own mobile speed camera. I knew it the moment cars traveling on the other direction started flashing their lights to help save hundred of bucks and a handful of demerit points. I was actually expecting a Territory or Commodore Sportwagon operating the camera. Too bad it was one of ours, who gave up Mitsubishi pride in favour of a day's work.
Plate was WRR634. It's improper because motorists have the right to know a speed camera is on operation in the area. Of course these pricks would violate the guidelines to meet quota.
motorists shouldnt be speeding to begin with so there being a camera anywhere shouldnt matter.
if your not speeding then a camera is just another car on the side of the road.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:13 am
by Graham
I slow down whenever I see a car on the side of the road, especially on major highways or freeways, regardless if I'm speeding or sitting on the limit.. It's just a habit now!
I also find that I'm spending alot of time looking on the side of the road than on the actual road when driving (though it isn't hard to focus on both at the same time).
I don't agree with revenue raisers!
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:24 pm
by milobob
The problem I find with speeding tickets.. is that... people tend to get fined when they are not deliberately going over the limit (say for example you were distracted by something else and not looking at your speedo every 2s). All it takes is a split second slip at the wrong time and tada! Speeding fine.
Really, they should catch the hoons who much more dangerous drivers than people accidentally going 5km/h over the limit... though that said you shouldn't be speeding anyway!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:59 am
by squala
Poor policing, as evidenced by the severe lack of patrol cars and making cameras do their work for them, needs to change. It's all about raising revenue that's why these mobile stalkers are discreet. They make you commit the crime first instead of being responsible enough to warn you about going over the limit and correct your speed. In NSW, right after those white Territory mercenaries are signs saying "Your speed has been checked." rather than precautionary reminders such as "Mobile camera in use, please check speed." before the vehicle.
It would have been alright if the revenue entails benefits like better roads, European like driving skills and less road tolls, but unfortunately, there's none of them at all. Corruption? You decide.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:01 am
by foreshadow
squala wrote:Poor policing, as evidenced by the severe lack of patrol cars and making cameras do their work for them, needs to change. It's all about raising revenue that's why these mobile stalkers are discreet. They make you commit the crime first instead of being responsible enough to warn you about going over the limit and correct your speed. In NSW, right after those white Territory mercenaries are signs saying "Your speed has been checked." rather than precautionary reminders such as "Mobile camera in use, please check speed." before the vehicle.
It would have been alright if the revenue entails benefits like better roads, European like driving skills and less road tolls, but unfortunately, there's none of them at all. Corruption? You decide.
They have nothing to do with police, they are privately run, government owned. Is way cheaper for the government to set up a camera then put all the resources into more police and highway patrol cars. Unfortunately its all about the $$$$ these days.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:06 am
by ofey
I've always wondered if I saw these while on a leisurely drive where I wasn't rushing anywhere, could I pull up in front of it and park directly in front of these so the camera can't work? In a related question also If it were parked on the nature strip isn't that illegal?? Or if I were driving in the opposite direction, could I park my car on the opposite side of the road and flash my headlight at on coming cars?
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:32 am
by JaCe
ofey wrote:I've always wondered if I saw these while on a leisurely drive where I wasn't rushing anywhere, could I pull up in front of it and park directly in front of these so the camera can't work? In a related question also If it were parked on the nature strip isn't that illegal?? Or if I were driving in the opposite direction, could I park my car on the opposite side of the road and flash my headlight at on coming cars?
Depends if you were able to successfully block the camera... but on the plus side, they wouldn't be able to see you flashing your lights. Until the operator got out of the car to talk to you.
ps. In all seriousness though, if they are acting on behalf of the government, I wouldn't be surprised if they had some form of force of law power whereby if you purposely interfere with their efforts...
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:01 am
by tjoz
Park in front of one and they will either move their car in front of yours, ask you to move it or get your car towed. It happened in my area once, it ended up in local paper and no camera hardly in that street ever again.
Police have nothing to do with them though. They are usually commissioned by the council and most are either in school zones or in areas where there is a lot of hoon reports. They are also common in zones where the speed limit changes frequently (from 80-70 or lower then back up to 80).
The ones in my area are usually Outlander's, Corola's, Falcon wagons or Commodore wagons. Honda Civic's are becoming more popular with the private operators.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:37 am
by foreshadow
i remember in Sydney many years ago when they used to just park them on the side of the road, leave them unattended and pick them up in the evening. Some smart ass, took the plates off the camera car put them on his car, and proceeded to drive past the camera about 30 times well over the speed limit. Wasnt untill the camera car got aheap of tickets in the mail did they realise.
From then on, was always somone sitting in the car.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:44 am
by Dire
Theres a mobile speedcamera in Perth. I saw it on the news. Its just a white van with a HUGE tinted glass panel on the back.
Easiest thing in the universe to spot. So whats the point?
Re: Improper Use of Outlander Chassis
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:57 am
by rayray
squala wrote:It would be a dark bluish grey, pre-facelifted model standing by in Blackburn Road just past the BP station corner Highbury Road. It was preying on unassuming motorists. Yes, it's Melbourne's very own mobile speed camera. I knew it the moment cars traveling on the other direction started flashing their lights to help save hundred of bucks and a handful of demerit points. I was actually expecting a Territory or Commodore Sportwagon operating the camera. Too bad it was one of ours, who gave up Mitsubishi pride in favour of a day's work.
Plate was WRR634. It's improper because motorists have the right to know a speed camera is on operation in the area. Of course these pricks would violate the guidelines to meet quota.
i think you may have got the plate wrong cos WRR634 is registered under a toyota silver sedan (haha yes I've got too much time on my hands and decided to do a vehicle status check
)
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:05 pm
by tjoz
You seen the new ones they been testing for the last 6-12months? Carless ones
You know the ones they put out on the road where there is usually one or two cables laying across the road? Well they now come with camera's in them and a speed sensor.
Not sure if its the single or double cable ones that have the camera in them.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:30 pm
by ofey
Those cables were originally used to monitor the amount of traffic passing through the street they were laid on. SICKENING to think that they now come with speed sensors!!