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New Proton Waja based on CJ Lancer

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:35 am
by JaCe
Not sure if anyone here follows paultan but someone has taken spy shots of the new Proton Waja (the locally made car which is a bit more upmarket/family oriented than say their Gen2 or S16/Saga or Satria). Quite clearly our CJ Lancer underneath eh!

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URL: http://paultan.org/2010/08/02/new-proto ... more-38004

Interestingly the last Waja which I have driven extensively was compared to a BMW e46 3 series in handling if I recall correctly (based on the huge billboard advertisements near Sydney Int'l Airport).

ps. They also have artists rendering based on the above spy shots: http://paultan.org/2010/08/02/rendering ... more-38060

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:38 am
by ofey
We talked about this at the last VIC meet. Very disappointing for Lancer owners in Malaysia.

2 thoughts:
1. Wonder if buying waja spares will be cheaper?
2. Wonder if any of those in M'sia buying a waja will debadged and rebadge as a Mitsu?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:44 am
by Chubb
It is like your standard model refresh isn't new front and rear bumper, MY11 lancer anyone :P :P

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:17 am
by Bandit
I am surprised that Mitsubishi have released the panelling and so on to Proton while the model is still current. Usually they wait until the model/body has been superseded....

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:25 pm
by milobob
Yea, I always thought Proton uses at least 2 generations behind when it came to the Wajas/Wiras or whatever. Here I was thinking the CH lancer.. but CJ? :(:(:(:(:(

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:19 pm
by tjoz
This is old. Its something to do with the law up there and an agreement between Mitsubishi and Proton. Plus Proton is owned by the government too.

I think it was Mitsubishi either had no regional dealer network in that country, no license to sell in that country due to restrictions or an existing model is already on sale in that region. The Lancer was brought in under Proton for it to be on sale to that region. Its an agreement that is set up to protect the local car manufacturer's much the same as the French laws that protect their local manufacturer's.

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:53 pm
by ofey
tjoz: With all due respect, I have absolutely no idea where you got that. Here's a link to Mitsubishi Malaysia's Lancer Page.

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:16 pm
by milobob
I am very sure M'sia Mitsubishi sells Lancers... and they cost about RM 90k from what I was told :o

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:06 pm
by RyanMK
milobob wrote:I am very sure M'sia Mitsubishi sells Lancers... and they cost about RM 90k from what I was told :o


Yeap. Malaysia do sell Mitsubishi Lancers. It's more expensive there due to the government taxing on foreign cars to protect the local manufacturers.

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:20 pm
by PYLee
i thought of commenting about tjoz's post but too tired to lol

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:22 pm
by tadz0rz
What I find pretty shattereing, they still get the black tail lights...

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:16 pm
by RyanMK
whitemonster wrote:i thought of commenting about tjoz's post but too tired to lol


Lol.

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:35 pm
by JaCe
ofey wrote:We talked about this at the last VIC meet. Very disappointing for Lancer owners in Malaysia.

2 thoughts:
1. Wonder if buying waja spares will be cheaper?
2. Wonder if any of those in M'sia buying a waja will debadged and rebadge as a Mitsu?


1. Spares should be cheap if they are locally assembled/built (labour is cheap and minimal transport costs).

2. Yes. There are so many Wiralutions and Wajalutions it's not funny. That being said some of them would eat the pants off my Evo (I've sat in 4G63's before; and they are strpiped and lightweight too compared to their Evo origins).

Also too lazy to comment on tjoz's post. It's basically a deal which Mitsu have with Proton to sell them their designs/etc to allow Proton to locally build/assemble models. Most of the local manufacturers have some sort of technology sharing agreement. Foreign import vehicles have massive taxes and hence manufacturers are incentivised to participate in such schemes so that they can still earn some revenue (i.e. royalties). The other option is to establish local assembly operations in Malaysia (or Thailand) but that is both costly and possibly not worthwhile.

That being said, MB now assemble their (current) S500 locally to MB standards so some manufacturers do see potential. But even then, it's RM1mil which is stil more exp than Aus.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:03 am
by lancervr
hey guys an update its official and this is what the new proton looks like.... its called the INSPIRA no longer waja.....bookings apparently have started, hel there is even alrdy a proton inspira club out even though the car hasnt even been launched and are available in 1.8 manual and cvt and 2.0 cvt.... will be officially launched in november....

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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:01 am
by M@verik
I dont know... I kinda like the bumper lol