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HELP!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:48 pm
by lancer123
Any1 know retail pricing on new etac ecu?
Waiting for a bill from mitsu cuz they had my car for ova a week trying to fix the LED tail light problem with the ASC warnings... A week later they realise its the lights after theyve replace brake switchs evryfin through to a new ECU and cuz my lights are aftermarket guess who gets the bill!!!
AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:55 pm
by tadz0rz
Wait... You bought the LED tail lights off ofey and it's messing with your ecu? Did you have the risister installed when it started messing with the ecu?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:01 pm
by aspir3
tadz0rz wrote:Wait... You bought the LED tail lights off ofey and it's messing with your ecu? Did you have the risister installed when it started messing with the ecu?
I was chatting with Aaron yesterday about his problems with the lights and no he does not have resistors fitted to the light circuit.
Sounds like the Ecu issue is probably trying to read a blown globe because of the low resistance with the LED lights.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:03 pm
by tadz0rz
That seems to be the issue then. Dont get suckered into what mitsubishi is saying just yet. Let them know of the issue with the tail lights and resistor and see if that remedies the problem...
Does your cruise control not work either?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:31 pm
by R4LLI4RT
omg who thought lights could cause all this hassle
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:40 pm
by aspir3
Shouldn't the ECU give a code with the error?
I would have thought once the computer was plugged in it would have put a code up for blown globe or resistance error.
It is not fair if you have to pay for new ECU and labour if they can not do a quick fault find.
I bet you there is nothing wrong with old ECU. If they plug the old one in it will work fine with the rear lights replaced.
All that was needed was the resistors installed.
It is a pity you did not join ccj before this problem.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:49 pm
by ofey
And BTW I don't think lancer123 bought the LED tail lamps from me. All my tail lamps come pre-wired with resistors now. Those who bought earlier recieved 2 resistors within the box to wire in. So I hope this doesn't put off anyone.
41 LED Tail Lamps sold. No problems from anyone.
If anyone does face a problem, I'd appreciate a PM to tell or even an open post on the forum so our Chief Tech - Sir-VRX can help shed some light on the issue.
The problem as Mattigins put it is well known. In the US and even in Malaysia, many people I've read still haven't solved the problem and have been driving around still with this problem. But for a dealership to swap out an ECU due to your aftermarket lights, now that's silly.
I'm not so sure I would have done the same. I would have taken out the tail lights first and put back the stock ones. See if the ECU Still had a problem. If not you've isolated the problem. Surely the bill for a new ECU should be enough to get you to take off the part at fault. Then look for an answer.
An analogy would be trying to open a door with a bazooka. You've just gone OTT in trying to solve your problem and over-reacted.
I find it very hard to believe you wouldn't just remove the tail lamps to ascertain if this is the cause of your ECU problems. Unless your intentions was to try and paint a very dim picture of these LED tail lights... . Now, that would be just wrong.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:34 pm
by tryg
When I bought these early on, they came with resistors and they were not pre-installed... I too had all the same issues.
Simple fix, installed resistors, all back to normal... No new ETACS required... just put in the 50c worth of resistors...
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:04 am
by Mez
Same, without the resistors the screen went orange and told me ASC was off and my cruise control didn't work, put in the resistors packed with em and never had the problem again
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:22 pm
by lancer123
Yea im aware now of the resistor to fix the problem.. i did \nt buy from ofey didnt mean to turn any1 off buying the lifghts they are awsum just im getting the bill from mitsu cuz warranty wont pay for parts labour etc even though the old parts were fine....
Any1 know wat the etacs would cost?
I gotta go pay for my service tomora and thats wen they are giving me the bill apparently...
Not lookin forward to seeing wat im being charged for...
Will def be goin to see sum1 about whether or i do have to pay for this
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:36 pm
by aspir3
lancer123 wrote:Yea im aware now of the resistor to fix the problem.. i did \nt buy from ofey didnt mean to turn any1 off buying the lifghts they are awsum just im getting the bill from mitsu cuz warranty wont pay for parts labour etc even though the old parts were fine....
Any1 know wat the etacs would cost?
I gotta go pay for my service tomora and thats wen they are giving me the bill apparently...
Not lookin forward to seeing wat im being charged for...
Will def be goin to see sum1 about whether or i do have to pay for this
Aaron I don't think there is anyone in the club who has had their ECU replaced. Therefore I don't think anyone will know the cost.
The main point is there is nothing wrong with your old ECU so why pay for a new one?
I would not accept paying for a new one when it was not required.
Good luck tomorrow.
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:36 pm
by SIR-VRX
You have to pay for a new ETACS ECU?
Ouch mate, that will not be cheap at all. I'm going to guess $1000 just for the part.
Let us know how you go
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:45 pm
by tadz0rz
Even just get them to give you a quote for the repairs, let them know about the resistor in the brake lights, see if that remedies the problem before they start swapping ecu's n junk. Dont let them start it
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:47 pm
by Sickbunny
the problem is Tadz he didnt know about the resistor before mitsubishi did the work.