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Postby tadz0rz » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:09 pm

That story i quoted aswell was in australia
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Postby Speedie » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:22 am

Blakey wrote:
Speedie wrote:1) No police do not have to wear a reflective jacket while on the road. If they can prove they have sufficient safety equipment in place that is all that is required.
2) No they don't need your permission to film the offence but you can request a copy.
3)No police aren't exempt from the rules. The road rules apply to them as much as they do to you, only in an emergency situation are they allowed to break the rules.


speedie they actually have to wear it its not a cop rule its a Workplace health and safety rule. that any worker doing work on or near a road MUST have a hi vis jacket or High vis clothing on, if you in your own job have to work on or next to a road you also must wear a hi vis clothing or you will cop an on the spot fine from OHS.(if caught) that can be up to and over $200


I'm sorry Blakey but 1 of the points I made in my recent court appearance was that at 20:40pm the police officer wasn't wearing a hi-vis jacket and the judge excepted that the police lights was sufficient safety equipment for the road on which we were on for that time of night.
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Postby The X » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:06 am

Speedie wrote:
Blakey wrote:
Speedie wrote:1) No police do not have to wear a reflective jacket while on the road. If they can prove they have sufficient safety equipment in place that is all that is required.
2) No they don't need your permission to film the offence but you can request a copy.
3)No police aren't exempt from the rules. The road rules apply to them as much as they do to you, only in an emergency situation are they allowed to break the rules.


speedie they actually have to wear it its not a cop rule its a Workplace health and safety rule. that any worker doing work on or near a road MUST have a hi vis jacket or High vis clothing on, if you in your own job have to work on or next to a road you also must wear a hi vis clothing or you will cop an on the spot fine from OHS.(if caught) that can be up to and over $200


I'm sorry Blakey but 1 of the points I made in my recent court appearance was that at 20:40pm the police officer wasn't wearing a hi-vis jacket and the judge excepted that the police lights was sufficient safety equipment for the road on which we were on for that time of night.
I think the distinction needs to be made between that of a legal requirement and a procedural requirement. Procedurally they are required to wear hi-vis gear not legally required. A judge can only rule on legal matters not procedural matters relating to another department.
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Postby milobob » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:07 am

tadz0rz wrote:From what ive actually heard, its illegal to flash your high beams to warn other drivers of a speed camera. Had to listen to some cop on the radio talking about it when i was in the passenger seat of the fiesta listening to AM talk back radio =\


Yea. It's illegal. You know what I do? I dim my headlights to parkers then to low beams :P So If I get stopped I can go.. oh.. was just checking my lights :P
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Postby squala » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:49 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Lancer's fog lamps aren't really fog lamps. Firstly, they use the same type of bulbs as the normal headlights. They're also not very effective in unclear conditions. The hardcore lamps similar to rally cars are an entirely different thing, so technically, you didn't have the foggies on.
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Postby The X » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:53 pm

squala wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Lancer's fog lamps aren't really fog lamps. Firstly, they use the same type of bulbs as the normal headlights. They're also not very effective in unclear conditions. The hardcore lamps similar to rally cars are an entirely different thing, so technically, you didn't have the foggies on.

I'm curious (excuse my naivety), but how are they different? beam focus or colour?
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Postby SIR-VRX » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:58 pm

The bulbs are different they're H11. But the beam pattern is definately fog lighting. Very low to the ground and more spread than length. Fog lights work better in fog as a yellow light.

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Postby The X » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:02 am

I thought yellow is the norm. From memory the bulbs are a normal coloured light as noted previously. Is it possible to replace them with a proper yellow light or do the lense have to be replaced to achieve that? ... goes off to play on e-bay to find out.

Edit: doing a search on "H11 yellow -hid" indicates you can replace the bulbs to achieve proper yellow appearance. Though have to cut thru all the dodgy ebay stuff. No brand name stuff there. :(

edit edit: hmm the "Nokya" (yes not Nokia) are apparently JDM 2500k fog bulbs. Must look further into that...
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Postby SIR-VRX » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:36 am

I am actually waiting for some yellow fog globes in the mail ;)

just eBay rubbish nothing flash. But I rarely use the fogs, except in fog lol

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Postby Bandit » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:59 am

Fogs don't necessarily have to be yellow - they are determined to be fogs based on beam depth and light spread. Fogs as SIR-VRX says, spread the light low and wide.

Having said that - I personally reckon that yellow is better - after living in an area prone to severe fog, the yellow light is definitely reflected less back to you than whiter colours.

I have some Hella fogs (can't remember what type) - would love to have them installed on the Lancer but they are a bit big.
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Postby scraverX » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:38 pm

I was driving home last night with my other half and a friend in the car; someone coming the other way had their fogs on - and possibly highs too, I'm not sure.

I yelled angrily... :lol:

My other half said to our friend: "He has anger management issues. Difficulty managing other people's anger."

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Postby squala » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:38 pm

scraverX wrote:I was driving home last night with my other half and a friend in the car; someone coming the other way had their fogs on - and possibly highs too, I'm not sure.

I yelled angrily... :lol:

My other half said to our friend: "He has anger management issues. Difficulty managing other people's anger."

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That ain't the worst in Aussie driving mate. I keep some dark chocolate in the car because it seems to lighten my mood minutes after being angry at sh!t motorists.
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Postby The X » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:53 pm

[quote="squala]That ain't the worst in Aussie driving mate. I keep some dark chocolate in the car because it seems to lighten my mood minutes after being angry at sh!t motorists.[/quote]surely it must melt on warmer days in the car. I prefer to sip on my haterade and let loose. :D

Back on topic. Looking at some PIAA yellow 2500K lights. I know yellow isn't a must for foggies but seems better and looks cooler and the fact they I hardly drive in foggy conditions is beside the point other than it looks cool (if and when i need them). :D
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