**NSW IMPORTANT** - Suspension rule change starting soon

[LZY_EYE]

I am not sure, but knowing the way things work in NSW if in doubt they will send you over the pits. The best thing to do is carry evidence in your log book that the lowering took place prior to August 2009.

In saying that, people that only lower about an inch, should probably not be noticed so much. No lower than a clubsport etc.

[Dummer]

Yes but if they defect you and put you over the pits then you're rooted because you can't get a blue slip unless it's engineered, irrelevant of when it was installed. I lowered my car last year properly and it's all legal and honky dory, if I need a blue slip after this August the car is now illegal without an engineering certificate. How is that at all fair? It's just basically making the highway pigs jobs easier because they dont need to use their brains when inspecting a car's suspension to see if it's dodgey, rather they'll just now have to look for a certificate sticker on the car.

Where this will also affect people is transferring a car from interstate to NSW rego as you need a blue slip for that too. It's all a pathetic joke, but from NSW Labour what else can we expect?

[LZY_EYE]

Yeah it is a joke, I have read that cars lowered before August are OK.

But, it is rediculous. There is no way for them to police it except using proof of purchase. It is the most stupid law, with very little forsight.

The stupid thing is you and I that were never going to do anything stupid suffer. I have a 5 year old daughter, and I am in no way ever going to endanger her life by doing silly and dangerous mods.

The idiot that goes and cuts his springs, is going to do it without any regard for this law and will still endanger lives. I see heaps up here... they hit a pot hole, and you see the car bouncing for the next k up the road...

The most rediculous thing about it is all the stupid modifications are already illegal. So, the people lowering their cars too much etc are in the exactly the same boat as they are now. It is just honest people that get screwed...

Anyways, it is way past my bedtime and I am babbling crap lol must be time to go

[spareparts]

the way i see it yes ts a rule.... but if ypu dont hang out in areas that defect central... aka macca nats you should be be rite just dont make ya self look suss.... and the other thing are they gona have a book with ever ride hite on ever vehicle.... like come on, if you go for like a 35mm drop most wont tell realy,

[Dummer]

Yeah it is a joke, I have read that cars lowered before August are OK.

The way I am reading is it means that we don’t need to rush out and grab engineering approval as our cars were done before August. But the RTA article also says that no AUVIS inspection (blue slip) will pass any car after August 2009, so to me that means even if you have already lowered the car last year but then a cop defects you, you will have to get it engineered before you can get a blue slip to lift the defect notice. Plus remember the cops don’t even have to prove your mod is illegal in order to slap a defect notice on you. On the contrary it’s up to you to prove it’s not illegal with a blue slip, which is where you’ve now got the little catch 22 situation happening for cars already lowered…

It will now be interesting to see how easily engineers will sign off on lowering mods and what they are going to charge. Unless King Springs/Pedders/Lovells/etc can provide engineering certs with the springs to say they will be legal and safe in this car (allowed under the new laws from my interpretation) it is going to make lowering cars much more expensive and will really hurt businesses that specialise in suspension work.

Spareparts, my VRX is on King Lows and it’s quite obvious it’s been lowered. Besides all it takes is one look past the wheel and there the nice yellow coils are sitting making it clear as mud to even a dumb cop that it’s lowered.

[LZY_EYE]

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, and that is exactly what will happen. All you need is someone who has had a bad day and their suspicion and you end up with a defect.

It depends on what brief the cops get if any on how to handle the situation. A receipt showing your car has been lowered before August should suffice but who knows how that will turn out in the real world.

I can't see kings and pedders etc supplying an engineering cert as they have no control over the installation of the equipment.

I guess we just have to sit it out, and see how everything pans out in reality.

[Bandit]

In my original post I mentioned the RTA have been advising this rule is RETROSPECTIVE - as Ryan_C notes, it affects vehicles already lowered when it comes time for an AUVIS inspection.

I don't think Pedders and the like are 'engineering signatories', which are required to provide certification under the Rule.

[Dummer]

Yeah I just re-read it and I had gotten confused by where it was saying that if raised with a manufacturer kit they could provide a certificate of compliance. (should have read it slower the first time around )

[LZY_EYE]

I have just phoned the RTA.

They do not have any further information than what is on the website.

They have given me a number to call 1300 137 302, but they will not have the information until tomorrow. That way we will have some more official word on the interpretation of the document.

[Bandit]

Press release from NSW Opposition - http://www.andrewstoner.com.au/media/me ... -laws.aspx

[Dummer]

hmmm interesting I was half expecting the opposition to agree with the gov't on this...

Anyway if you don't like it write a letter to your local MP and hopefully others will do the same.

[dumb&]

Glad I kept my old springs...

[Dummer]

Exactly my thoughts Dave!!

[SIR-VRX]

Glad I'm in QLD...

[dumb&]

We're glad you're there too.