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Postby BRO-027 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:30 pm

Thats a shame, i wanted the LED ones. *facepalm*

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Postby BrownSound » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:47 pm

VRX_Pete wrote:Our vendor AutoMoGlow has CCFL on special fomr $100 to $80 and I think $15 shipping to AU. How much will concord customs charge for labour?


They said it was $250 for the LEDs and the labour is still $350. Only issue with supplying my own is that if anything goes wrong CC will just blame AMG, and I won't really have much power to make a "warranty" claim.

I gave Queen St a call and he said he would need to source them for me so couldn't give a price straight away. But as a "rough" estimate for labour he was saying around $200. If that turns out to be the case it sounds great to me.

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Postby The X » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:50 pm

I want the CCFL ones. I've read the how tos and I think my headlight assemblies will have an appointment with the BBQ hood (as my oven is too small). LOL
As for the wiring... figuring that out how I want wire it all up. I think I might need an extra 2 ballasts/inverters to achieve what I want...
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Postby BrownSound » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:56 pm

Haha... Make sure you get even chargrill lines!

I've been reading around about LED rings (where the LEDs shine through the ring giving the same look as CCFL), but haven't been able to find ones for the lancer. These should last a lot longer than the CCFLs and you won't need multiple ballasts.

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Postby Glenn » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:47 pm

hah great idea using the bbq. Wiring sounds interesting if you need the extra ballasts.
I've seen led ones for the lancers which are more like the audi ones where you can see a dozen or so individual leds around the ring. I've also heard of custom made ones where you bend a sanded perspex tube into a ring, drill a hole in one end of it and fit in a single led. Cant imagine it being as bright as the ccfl though

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Postby The X » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:33 pm

BrownSound wrote:Haha... Make sure you get even chargrill lines!
Umm, change the grille plate over to two hot plates. Stick a rack so the assembly has no contact with the plate - maintain temp...should be fine! :P ... or so the plan is... otherwise there'll be tears before bedtime. :P

Glenn wrote:hah great idea using the bbq. Wiring sounds interesting if you need the extra ballasts. Ive seen led ones for the lancers which are more like the audi ones where you can see a dozen or so individual leds around the ring.
I'm wanting to light each CCFL independantly if that makes sense. Each ballast has 1 power input and two HV outputs for each CCFL on each side. Need to have a quick HV charge to energise the gas and then maintain a normal voltage to maintain the exicted gas....
I dont like the LEDs, just doesn't look right for my personal preference. :)
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Postby Concord Customs » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:12 am

hey everyone,

i have just read this post and i thought that i would explain how our prices.

yes our prices used to be $450 which had LED rings installed and wired to the parker lights, but the prices have gone up due to getting a new supplier of LED rings which are of a higher quality and better warranty.

prices on rings used to be $200, but the new supplier costs us $250. another supplier from america for CCFL rings costs us approximately $250 with shipping
http://www.automotivelightstore.com/mit ... lokit.aspx

our installation prices have increased due to the amount of hours required to complete teh installation.

for example, if someone shooses an option with $250 rings, the price for installation will be $600.

the break down is like this

SUPPLY AND INSTALLATION INCLUDING GST = $600
GST APPLIED = $545.45
COST OF PARTS = $250

COST IN LABOUR = $545.45 - $250 = 295.45

AMOUNT OF HOURS TO COMPLETE JOB = 4

AMOUNT CHARGED PER HOUR = $295.45 DIVIDED BY 4 = $73.86 PER HOUR

our normal ourly rate for custom work is $130 plus GST, but we obviously give a discount for Club CJ members.

i hop that explains alot to people as to why we have had to raise our prices.



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Postby Glenn » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:40 pm

VRX_Pete wrote: Im wanting to light each CCFL independantly if that makes sense.

very cool... could link the outer ones to the turning signals!

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Postby The X » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:28 pm

Glenn wrote:very cool... could link the outer ones to the turning signals!
no nothing as ricey as that. :P
Just link the halo around the low beams to the parkers. So when the parkers are lit, that low beam halo is on but the high beam halos are off.
However when the low beam headlights are on, i want to cut power to the low beam halo and power up the high beam halo - gotta figure that out.
Still a thought in my head at the moment... :)
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Postby BrownSound » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:30 pm

Concord Customs wrote:hey everyone, i have just read this post and i thought that i would explain how our prices. yes our prices used to be $450 which had LED rings installed and wired to the parker lights, but the prices have gone up due to getting a new supplier of LED rings which are of a higher quality and better warranty....


Thanks for taking the time to explain Chris, on the warranty side of things would this install/AEs themselves come with a 1 year warranty or would it be more in the likes of 2 years?

I am concerned that after paying $600 that these will only last a short while (which has seemed to happen from what I've read). When you are only paying say $100 for the AMG ones, 1 year seems reasonable, but for $600 I would like them to last longer. I'm not sure if that is an unrealistic expectation though :S

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Postby The X » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:54 pm

Oh Naheen, this is the post I saw last week when I was looking at CCFL and stumbled across this... as I said in chat tonight....

The "www.advancedautomotiveconcepts.com" redirects to http://www.automotivelightstore.com
So i dunno, some people say the CCFL is "thin" but no idea how this affects the ability to survive hard knocks from crappy roads....

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showpo ... ostcount=8

"Ive bought 2 brands of CCFL halos:

1st
- Brand: Oracle
- Seller: www.advancedautomotiveconcepts.com (expensive)
2nd
- Brand: ??
- Seller: www.Gadgetmaster.com.au (cheaper)
Oracle Halo
pros:
- Only 3mm thin. I prefer a THIN look
- made to form a complete circle

cons:
- price
- 3mm makes them quite fragile


Gadgetmaster Halo
Pros:
- cheaper price
- feels more durable due to being thicker

cons:
- Doesnt form a complete circle
- slightly thicker than the Oracle halos @ 4mm (noticable to me)"
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Postby The X » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:57 pm

That being said tho, at the time the gadgetmaster site was down and had a look now and it doesn't have CCFL that i can see.... so it's all moot.
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Postby mickyoz » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:10 pm

CCFL's are hit and miss, they are good, but not as good as LED.

CCFL will give you that continuous ring (light) but getting a solid looking ring with LED is all dependant on how many LED's are in the ring.

Longevity wise, LED's will be far superior over CCFL's.


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