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Cold air intake

Postby Mugzy92 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:12 pm

So sort of new to the whole modifying the car thing. Ive got a 2013 lancer es with sports kit on it (so slightly 'sportier' body kit, 19's on it) and basically i want to start looking at performance modifications.
I know its not performance as suck but ive already installed coilovers and have recently installed just an axel back exhaust, just wanted a better sound.

Now ive read that a cold air intake is pretty much my next best bet in terms on mods, and am very intrigued, but not quite sure what Intake system to get.
read alot on here that K&N seem to be the way to go, but in terms of installing and what not is it easy enough for any tom dick and harry to do??

just want some feedback on what to get and how easy to install, and what sort of gains i'd be getting, be in performance or sound. Any help will be greatly appreciated!!

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want a CAI, what should i get
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Postby jordan.fuchs » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:20 pm

To be completely honest with you mate, you won't get huge gains with the CAI alone, you're better off getting a catback exhaust (with a high flow cat) and headers, then put a CAI in (I have injen and love it, increases throttle response and sounds awesome).
Once you have that done, go see Beeble(95% sure he's in Melbourne) and get a tune done. You will notice a big difference after the tune.

As far as the injen CAI goes, it's pretty simple to install, you have to remove your bumper though. Took me about an hour and I'm not a mechanic by any means.

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Postby Kal777 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:43 pm

you do not need to take the bumper off to install the injen. i never did, and ive had it in and out a few times. took me 20min to install
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Postby black_ice » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:47 pm

You best bang for buck is to see beeble (Adam) and get it tuned...

and I agree with Jordan...sort out your exhaust first..that will net you much better gain compared to a CAI...
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Postby jordan.fuchs » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:54 pm

Kal777 wrote:you do not need to take the bumper off to install the injen. i never did, and ive had it in and out a few times. took me 20min to install


Ok, you don't need to take your bumper off, but it makes it alot easier.
Inb4 no it doesn't, yes it does.

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Postby Mugzy92 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:08 pm

Thanks guys! Appreciate it. Looks like I've got some more research to do!
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Postby belle_tb_ES » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:49 pm

Firstly..welcome.

Secondly. ...ive heard mixed stories about getting headers (due to the design of the manifold and good design of the motors- only add them when the manifold cracks) and high flow cats...so I can't say much more

Best bet- at least a knn air filter with RA snorkel and cat back exhaust and tune. Ive noticed little to no difference with just adding a knn filter (actually car was slower to 100km but that is most likely weight and human error)
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Postby Mystique » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:55 pm

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Postby Damir » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:59 pm

I'm just going to do a diy CAI style thing on my car
don't have 300 dollars lying around and it surely can't be too hard to whiz up a few silicon pipes and a poddy :P
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Postby Zaphod » Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:36 pm

CAI will make no different to a standard-tuned car at all - check the monster car mods YouTube channel and see their dyno runs across different brands/types.

It will help when you get a custom-tune, speak to Beeble or Merlin on this and don't believe what anyone says if they can't back up their claims with a before-and-after dyno chart from their own vehicle - don't believe the manufacturer's marketing either. I did a before & after on my Monaro and it made a few Kw difference out of a mild 242RWKW tune, so percentage-wise its not much...

Either get the K&N kit if you want a pod-style intake or simply grab an RA snorkel and a K&N panel filter. If you want a 'proper' cold air intake, you need a ram in front of your radiator or an 'old-school' bonnet-scoop... :-)

Without wanting to upset owners, avoid the Injen type as the intake pipe is way too long - as someone posted on another thread, it's like trying to drink through a straw - the longer the straw, the harder it is to suck up the drink...

Remember, if you are going to change your intake, you may affect the fuel/air ratio if you cock up the MAF, and again, bye-bye warranty. Get an expert to do it...

If your car is still under warranty, avoid changing the catalytic convertor, MMA won't be to pleased and you can affect the ADR for the car, but there's plenty you can do cat-back.

Tuned-length extractors are only of any real use if you're going to build a race engine on a nice, noisy bench, normal extractors are fine if you want a serious tune, but an ES is probably be going to be fine with the stock manifold, so unless you come across a cheap set and know the installer, you are best spending your cash elsewhere.


My two bobs worth... but ask Merlin or Beeble...

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Postby Damir » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:49 pm

its not about performance all the time
I've seen the mcm video and i know they don't do anything to performance but intake produces like 40% of the cars sound
also it looks cool when you pop the bonnet
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Postby Zaphod » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:09 pm

Yep! and Yep!

Sound good, look good! :-)
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